i have google'd and searched everywhere for visio shapes for Draytek products

does anybody know if there is any or does Draytek just use pen & paper to draw their network diagrams :lol:

Same here, found nothing. You could create your own by using one of the pictures from the manual, importing it into Visio and adding your own connection points.

Roger

thanks for the info roger, shame no quick solution, think just use standard router picture

cheers