yes I've had all three 2190's connected at the same time on VPN only then I and another engineer changed to 2930'3 because of our 50MB virgin. We could like I say connect up until March 2010 and now cannot, when I spoke to somebody at Draytek they siad they had this same issue reported once before with 50mb Virgin and 2930 but did not elaborate anymore. I have now come to a wall where I can have my VPN with a 2910 and 20mb line or have 50mb with a 2930 and no VPN

thanks for any info but have fixed the problem. I logged on the 2820 and went to internet access and it was set up using the static ip info that virgin gave me, so i thought lets try to obtain IP automatically, soon as i did that it started working again, but the strange thing is when using the 2910's it would work with the static config but not for the 2930's am confused at this but hey ho am up and running.