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ARP Responses from Vigor AP903 WiFi clients are not sent to LAN Requestor
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20 Mar 2022 15:50 #1
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If a LAN client sends an ARP Request to a Vigor AP903 WiFi client, the Response does not make it back to the LAN client. ARP "Announcements " and Requests in the other direction do work.
This means that if a WiFi client boots/gets a DHCP address before an associated LAN client, that LAN client will not be able to communicate with the WiFi client. If the WiFi client tries to access the LAN client, this succeeds and populates the LAN client's ARP cache, so that it now works in both directions. The client type appears to be irrelevant.
This is reproducible at will with the Vigor AP903 running V1.4.2 (for some reason, SYS VER says it's 1.4.2RC2 - but the firmware image is identical to that on the website).
![](https://i.ibb.co/3rV3yxn/Experiment.jpg)
192.168.100.2 (the "WiFi client") was a Windows 10 Pro 64bit client running on a laptop, connected to the AP903 via 2.4GHz WiFi.
192.168.100.6 (the "LAN client") was a Windows 10 Pro 64bit client, accessing the AP903 via a Netgear GS108T switch and a GS105E switch.
Needless to say, if you try the same experiment with a node that is not a WiFi client of a Vigor AP903, you cannot reproduce this behaviour - the ARP cache simply repopulates. I can see from Wireshark, that the ARPRequest makes it to the WiFi client and it responds. That Response gets discarded somewhere along the line.
I think this explains all manner of strange oddities I have seen over the last 18 months!
Of course, when encountering this problem, most people will drop the WiFi connection and re-establish it, which works-around the problem. (The LAN client will probably hear the ARPProbe and populates its ARP cache from that.)
This means that if a WiFi client boots/gets a DHCP address before
This is reproducible at will with the Vigor AP903 running V1.4.2 (for some reason, SYS VER says it's 1.4.2RC2 - but the firmware image is identical to that on the website).
![](https://i.ibb.co/3rV3yxn/Experiment.jpg)
Needless to say, if you try the same experiment with a node that is not a WiFi client of a Vigor AP903, you cannot reproduce this behaviour - the ARP cache simply repopulates. I can see from Wireshark, that the ARP
I think this explains all manner of strange oddities I have seen over the last 18 months!
Of course, when encountering this problem, most people will drop the WiFi connection and re-establish it, which works-around the problem. (The LAN client will probably hear the ARP
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21 Mar 2022 17:55 #2
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Every contact with Draytek Support, is less impressive than the last ...
Do you think they want me to read all that out to them?
--- Please do not reply below this line ---Draytek wrote:
Can you please give us a call and we will investigate furtherhttps://draytek.co.uk/support/contact-support
Regards,
James
Do you think they want me to read all that out to them?
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22 Mar 2022 01:40 #3
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Replied by hornbyp on topic Re: ARP Responses from Vigor AP903 WiFi clients are not sent to LAN Requestor
Given the seeming reluctance of Draytek Support to even accept there's a problem, I thought I'd do some more investigating.
With the Vigor AP903 reset to Factory Settings and plugged into a standalone Windows 10 PC, I tried to reproduce the issue with a variety of WiFi clients; I couldn't .
So it seems possible/likely, that this is to do with the multi-VLAN configuration I have. I tried putting my Vigor AP802 at the same position in the infrastructure as the Vigor AP903 normally resides (so complete with the Netgear switches). I couldn't reproduce the issue with that either. Re-introducing the Vigor AP903 brought the fault back.
So, I can try and get Draytek Support interested - or put the Vigor AP903 on eBay and replace it with something else![:( :(](/media/kunena/emoticons/18.png)
With the Vigor AP903 reset to Factory Settings and plugged into a standalone Windows 10 PC, I tried to reproduce the issue with a variety of WiFi clients; I couldn't
So it seems possible/likely, that this is to do with the multi-VLAN configuration
So, I can try and get Draytek Support interested - or put the Vigor AP903 on eBay and replace it with something else
![:( :(](/media/kunena/emoticons/18.png)
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23 Mar 2022 00:25 #4
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Having now got it into a state where it can be reproduced using a Vigor AP903, a PC and the wireless client of your choice, I suppose I'm going to have ring Draytek ![:roll: :roll:](/media/kunena/emoticons/20.png)
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26 Mar 2022 00:21 #5
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Having finally got to the end of the music-on-hold, I spoke to an affable guy, with a South African accent. (He had the accent; I didn't put one on to speak to him :wink: )
He had no idea who James is, no idea why I didn't have a ticket number and no idea why I'd been asked to call. He suggested I start again at the beginning![:( :(](/media/kunena/emoticons/18.png)
He had no idea who James is, no idea why I didn't have a ticket number and no idea why I'd been asked to call. He suggested I start again at the beginning
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28 Mar 2022 02:39 #6
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I have re-submitted this. Ticket no. DQ498561
(It turns out that the response to the first one did include a ticket no. (#DQ633079), but only in the Subject line. The subject line was too long to allow it be displayed in my Mail client (separate bug!).
In the meantime, I've removed the AP903 from my setup and replaced with a GS105Ev2 switch, an old Vigor 2830n and a Fritzbox 7530. It's all a bit unwieldy, but has a slight advantage, in that it WORKS![:roll: :roll:](/media/kunena/emoticons/20.png)
(It turns out that the response to the first one did
In the meantime, I've removed the AP903 from my setup and replaced with a GS105Ev2 switch, an old Vigor 2830n and a Fritzbox 7530. It's all a bit unwieldy, but has a slight advantage, in that it WORKS
![:roll: :roll:](/media/kunena/emoticons/20.png)
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