JoJoBinksy wrote: Thanks for the replies. It was NetXL and fulfilled by amazon... I contacted broadbandbuyer and they said what they ship out are security sealed by Draytek... I also contacted Draytek PreSales and they said it should be security sealed too. In light of this, coupled with the fact that the box rattled like heck, I returned it.

Now based on what a few people here have said, I doubt I'll be ordering from Draytek. Id be much more confident ordering a factory sealed product. A good friend at work ordered the AC version of the 2860 recently too, and he received an unsealed box, but the router inside was in a plastic bag with regular sellotape sealing it up. We had an interesting conversation which invoked memories of the pictures published in the guardian (paper or website) showing Cisco boxes being tampered with whilst in transit on their way to the customer.

Now I have absolutely nothing to hide, and indeed even if it was factory sealed it could still be tampered with! Haha, but I would have been a lot less concerned if there were security seals. Yes I could have upgraded the firmware (from a known safe router), yes I could have ran TCP/UDP port scans to see if it was leaking anything, but none of this would have been thought about had it been factory sealed... I can't take credit for these ideas, I received this advice from Michael Horowitz at routersecurity.org - a very helpful and informative guy.

JoJoBinksy wrote: Thanks for the replies. It was NetXL and fulfilled by amazon...