so I can confirm that the draytek is connected to the WiFI - if I go to diagnostics Ping I can ping the WIFI device from within the Draytek router, however connected devices to the Draytek still have no internet connectivity ? any thoughts ?

thanks in advance

As a first check - is the hotspot working correctly? e.g. if you connect a PC by wifi directly to the hotspot do you get full internet access then?

Hi,

Yes its working fine, im using it now to write this, I can also go into the management port of the hotspot and see the Draytek connected and allow full internet is ticked.

Bingo! - it was down to routing, I missed the default gateway IP address off the default route, added that in and away we go

thanks for all your help, wouldn't have got there without your input

Glad to have achieved something in life....